tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post1778005640967369362..comments2024-02-29T11:54:28.419+00:00Comments on Ed's Beer Site: Some clarity on finingsEdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-14848510204056600302016-09-18T09:07:01.874+01:002016-09-18T09:07:01.874+01:00Gelatin(e) is what you end up with if you don'...Gelatin(e) is what you end up with if you don't look after your isinglass. StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-23580138668183168662016-09-18T07:59:06.660+01:002016-09-18T07:59:06.660+01:00That's interesting, someone from NZ mentioned ...That's interesting, someone from NZ mentioned gelatin on twitter too. I guess isinglass isn't as widely available outside of the UK. Here though I don't think anyone uses gelatine commercially as isinglass is widely available and works better. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-44527707519285662452016-09-18T04:53:56.880+01:002016-09-18T04:53:56.880+01:00No mention of using gelatin finings? Fairly commo...No mention of using gelatin finings? Fairly common post fermentation in the US for breweries without centrifuge or filtering equipment. Rossnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-51040942528936964262016-09-17T17:45:49.961+01:002016-09-17T17:45:49.961+01:00@therealspratt mentions pectin. And I see there&#...@therealspratt mentions pectin. And I see there's this going on: http://www.ebc-symposium.org/uploads/mycms-files/documents/2014/presentations/BSG/L16_FJ_Methner_EBC_BSG.pdfStringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-29030847852093260622016-09-17T16:32:26.654+01:002016-09-17T16:32:26.654+01:00Agree with all the above ...& yet (after a few...Agree with all the above ...& yet (after a few hiccups early on IIRC) Marble seem to consistently manage it & when I spoke to Dave Porter once, he did too in his own pub (I.e. they just waited with the cask in stillage until it finally dropped clear-ish). I'm sure yeast choice, having CT's, etc could all help, & as a drinker I'd be ok with a tiny amount of yeast in my pint, but the recent vogue for 'London Murky' yeast-soup ain't for me. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08847650645815127023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-50860948369218257232016-09-17T13:13:35.496+01:002016-09-17T13:13:35.496+01:00Removing yeast (and other hazes), before packaging...Removing yeast (and other hazes), before packaging, without isinglass, is not a hard problem (although there are issues) The biggie is the demand for clear "real ale" in the current setting.StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-52068178426926288102016-09-17T10:33:26.741+01:002016-09-17T10:33:26.741+01:00People have looked into a few things but I've ...People have looked into a few things but I've not heard of anything even coming close to being commerically available. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-56453542546160130022016-09-17T10:14:34.425+01:002016-09-17T10:14:34.425+01:00Gets my goat this... I hear copper finings conflat...Gets my goat this... I hear copper finings conflated with isinglass a lot... and sometimes even from folk who think they're brewers. The BBC piece is not the first time we've seen this, and nor will it be the last.<br /><br />A lot of brewers are now using "vegetarian finings" - meaning the aux/silica stuff. Which I admit I do lazily repeat. Albeit I give a more complete story to anyone who asks... most folk just want a yes/no on a) "is it vegan?" b) "is it supposed to be this hazy?" :)<br /><br />Most of the "vegan finings" folks I know of are dropping practically all yeast out in a cold crash in tank. Using silica to help clear protein.Yvannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-84559451510991266282016-09-17T10:08:49.021+01:002016-09-17T10:08:49.021+01:00Is anyone working on an actual alternative to Isin...Is anyone working on an actual alternative to Isinglass? Is there a market? Fungal chitins? How expensive? (£1000 I should think. I'm not paying it, etc.)StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.com