tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post794717737596454080..comments2024-02-29T11:54:28.419+00:00Comments on Ed's Beer Site: Miracle Brew by Pete BrownEdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-69350397086474361052021-02-18T21:12:11.009+00:002021-02-18T21:12:11.009+00:00I agree with your comment about the book taking so...I agree with your comment about the book taking so long in coming. I paid to be a supporter and did get a few updates from Pete on its status (and his). After many fits and starts, I finally finished it — yesterday. Cheers!jperduehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12624026370339972038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-56491103914058107432017-10-25T19:40:23.937+01:002017-10-25T19:40:23.937+01:00With "roasted barley" as an ingredient t...With "roasted barley" as an ingredient that should read.Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-59174333778651022442017-10-25T19:39:17.540+01:002017-10-25T19:39:17.540+01:00I thank god The Beer Bible is too long for anyone ...I thank god The Beer Bible is too long for anyone to have attempted this on it.<br /><br />However, I'll OCB your OCB. Your comment on 1375 about Guinness is inaccurate. Although I hate to contradict Cornell (whose post I used in The Beer Bible to repeat the same, wrong, information), this isn't true. Guinness did start using roasted barley fairly soon after 1880, though the precise date is not known. I asked the archivist Eibhlin Colgan about this, and she found brewing logs in the late 19th century with barley as an ingredient. She's not sure whether the info she has is complete, however, and can't confirm it wasn't used earlier. Martyn has not visited the archive--or hadn't when he wrote that post--and so hasn't seen these records. But they're there and anyone can see them.Jeff Alworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930119177544342495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-53652358868611630672017-08-13T14:07:53.642+01:002017-08-13T14:07:53.642+01:00I have come to really dislike this “whisky is dist...I have come to really dislike this “whisky is distilled beer” trope. It’s not true in any but the most simplistic terms. Also, whisky tastes much nicer than distilled beer. Barmhttp://refreshingbeer.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-72055007368128304642017-06-30T18:18:44.112+01:002017-06-30T18:18:44.112+01:00More nerdathon then review, but still, it's go...More nerdathon then review, but still, it's good to have a hobby. Things are mostly going, and if I play my cards right I could have the webbing grafted on within the next few months. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-77794867403062822922017-06-30T16:32:12.528+01:002017-06-30T16:32:12.528+01:00Love this review Ed. Hope all is well. ChrisLove this review Ed. Hope all is well. ChrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-29293779054474927632017-06-18T11:29:29.104+01:002017-06-18T11:29:29.104+01:00Ok. Maybe there are chefs who talk about peel remo...Ok. Maybe there are chefs who talk about peel removal utensils too.....<br />The point is that your comments were very largely disproportionately nit-picking, given the nature of the book that you are discussing.<br />But you've more or less conceded that, so let's move on.rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15087435113920569997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-35171891114341221582017-06-18T11:08:46.362+01:002017-06-18T11:08:46.362+01:00Well you have now, that's what they call it in...Well you have now, that's what they call it in the pilot brewery at Campden BRI. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-55185262387276866092017-06-18T11:03:51.071+01:002017-06-18T11:03:51.071+01:00Indeed my experience does differ.
In my 11 years a...Indeed my experience does differ.<br />In my 11 years at Meantime I have used four different mash tuns, all of which had agitators, and all of which were called mash tuns.<br />I have never heard a brewer talk about mash conversion vessels. Any more than I have ever heard a chef talk about a "peel removal utensil".rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15087435113920569997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-87381661643705532872017-06-18T10:45:40.840+01:002017-06-18T10:45:40.840+01:00Clearly your experiences differ from mine! The las...Clearly your experiences differ from mine! The last brewery I worked at had a Mash Conversion Vessel and a Lauter Tun. The one before that just had a Mash Tun. And that's what they were called. The one I'm currently at is a European system, so I've been calling the first vessel an MCV, though I'm slightly paranoid they actually call it something else now! Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-72648197189686243992017-06-18T10:27:43.072+01:002017-06-18T10:27:43.072+01:00Well, you're not arguing, so fair enough, I su...Well, you're not arguing, so fair enough, I suppose.<br />But really -<br />" In mash conversion vessels the mash will be agitated, but if mash tuns are used the mash is not agitated..."<br />I know this is what you have to learn to get your IBD exams, but it simply doesn't reflect reality. Brewers don't talk about "mash conversion vessels". Some (trad British) mash tuns just let the mash rest, and some (German/European) mash tuns agitate the mash.<br />I could go on and on, but you've more or less conceded the point.......rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15087435113920569997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-71963474556355661112017-06-18T09:30:15.476+01:002017-06-18T09:30:15.476+01:00Well you can't say I didn't warn you it wa...Well you can't say I didn't warn you it was anal retentive nerdery. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-86878844773764381872017-06-18T08:52:39.302+01:002017-06-18T08:52:39.302+01:00By Heck! A lot of this is pretty pedantic to say t...By Heck! A lot of this is pretty pedantic to say the least.<br />Also, a lot of this is "Pete says this, but he could/should also have said this", but this is not a Phd thesis, it's a book aimed at fairly ordinary folk.<br />I pretty well every case cited, Pete is focussing on the salient point for clarity, not going off on, slightly irrelevant, tangents.<br />You haven't actually identified that many cases where what was written was actually incorrect.rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15087435113920569997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-2867437926711896522017-06-17T13:43:44.212+01:002017-06-17T13:43:44.212+01:00Not actaully no tax but it's certainly less. I...Not actaully no tax but it's certainly less. I've been here a couple of months now, but I try and avoid putting work things on the blog. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-40464779911344019372017-06-17T10:57:17.128+01:002017-06-17T10:57:17.128+01:00Didn't know you'd become a tax-dodger!Didn't know you'd become a tax-dodger!Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07009879034507926661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-62731703110945486902017-06-17T08:47:42.993+01:002017-06-17T08:47:42.993+01:00That's very kind of you Pete. I know I was lay...That's very kind of you Pete. I know I was laying it on a bit thick with the nerdery!Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-54675831506174902852017-06-16T15:22:29.022+01:002017-06-16T15:22:29.022+01:00In more than 140 characters will allow, thanks so ...In more than 140 characters will allow, thanks so much Ed. My writing is firmly aimed at the general, curious reader, so while I have to keep things simpler than you would probably like, it's very important that it's actually correct. You do deserve a massive fee, but I can only extend to a few scoops I'm afraid. As I mentioned, we're launching the book in the US in September, and there'll be a paperback edition in the UK next year. I'll list you in the acknowledgements of these editions as technical proofreader, and hopefully have chance to buy you this few scoops around GBBF.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03011702209832734676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-24670919735190494302017-06-16T13:23:21.238+01:002017-06-16T13:23:21.238+01:00I blame the OCB Wiki, I've been anal with beer...I blame the OCB Wiki, I've been anal with beer books ever since. I now even find typos in textbooks written by people who know far more than me. <br /><br />I've moved to the Isle of Man so it's not as easy for me to get to London as it used to be, I'll be over for the GBBF and the warm up though. <br /><br />As to cask beer that probably deserves a blog post in itself. I think that cask beer sales being stable actually hides a lot. I'm sure mass brands like Tetleys are way down and replaced with nitro keg, whilst sales of cask beer from micros must have increased massively. It's a lot rarer to find keg only pubs than it used to be, and (at least where I drink) cask beer quality is better now than when I started my drinking career. I see no reason why cask beer shouldn't continue as a mainstream product in ordinary pubs. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-87221178281503890162017-06-16T09:18:05.306+01:002017-06-16T09:18:05.306+01:00Fuck me Ed. Good job you are much more fun in pers...Fuck me Ed. Good job you are much more fun in person! Pete should have got you in for a massive fee (or a few scoops) as proof reader.<br /><br />Was hoping to see you at the Guild AGM, but instead I'll be taking part on a panel discussing the future of cask beer for Manchester Beer Week.<br /><br />Any thoughts?Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.com