tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post7012234907547327412..comments2024-02-29T11:54:28.419+00:00Comments on Ed's Beer Site: The Oxford Companion to Beer edited by Garrett OliverEdhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-27460957258449580732012-08-07T23:53:42.456+01:002012-08-07T23:53:42.456+01:00A very good point.A very good point.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-5889155549303312842012-08-07T23:26:52.932+01:002012-08-07T23:26:52.932+01:00I think you only need look at his response to the ...I think you only need look at his response to the critics to see he was most definitely the wrong man for the job.Kieran Haslett-Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562970144894398803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-81014634394088875262012-08-06T22:27:41.604+01:002012-08-06T22:27:41.604+01:00That's an excellent review. The book certainly...That's an excellent review. The book certainly looks rushed, and great brewer and writer he may be but I can't help but wonder if Garret Oliver was the right man for the job.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-60430248373890906212012-08-06T21:08:08.493+01:002012-08-06T21:08:08.493+01:00Steve - I thought the point of the wiki was to ide...Steve - I thought the point of the wiki was to identify the entries that <i>aren't</i> reliable.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07009879034507926661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-1705631112050450392012-08-06T20:12:59.041+01:002012-08-06T20:12:59.041+01:00I think Oliver made two disastrous errors in stewa...I think Oliver made two disastrous errors in stewarding the book. The first was to rush the book out in time for the Christmas market. The second was to hire a charlatan to help out in the final stages. <br /><br />It is a great shame, because Oliver is an excellent writer, but the editing can only be described as shoddy. I know that a book of this size will inevitably have errors, but is it too much to ask for one article to not openly contradict another one elsewhere on the same page?<br /><br />Some people said <a href="http://refreshingbeer.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/oxford-companion-to-beer-wait-for.html" rel="nofollow">my review</a> was fair, though negative.Barmhttp://refreshingbeer.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-43104542088253995882012-08-06T14:24:23.538+01:002012-08-06T14:24:23.538+01:00The trouble is most beer books I read have errors ...The trouble is most beer books I read have errors in them. <a href="http://edsbeer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/brewers-apprentice-by-greg-koch-and.html" rel="nofollow">The Brewers Apprentice</a> certainly did, and it made similar grandiose claims as the OCB. <br /><br />I've defintely learnt stuff from looking at OCB entries, though you need to get onto the wiki and google to check things out as well. Not an ideal situation, but as I said I've still learnt stuff so I've found it useful.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-19826222088523836332012-08-06T13:05:57.542+01:002012-08-06T13:05:57.542+01:00There is one and ed linked to it in his post!There is one and ed linked to it in his post!beersiveknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293913182389157112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-34198674869538051372012-08-06T13:01:57.767+01:002012-08-06T13:01:57.767+01:00even if the information it contains needs to be tr...<i>even if the information it contains needs to be treated with caution</i><br /><br />But that's the killer for me. If I picked up the OCB I would know in advance that some bits of it were untrustworthy - but how would I know which bits?<br /><br />Perhaps what we really need is a wiki where experts in particular (sub-)areas flag up the OCB entries that are totally reliable.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07009879034507926661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-33071552627072065552012-08-06T12:32:41.166+01:002012-08-06T12:32:41.166+01:00I was too impatient to wait.I was too impatient to wait.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2558050635605413616.post-68144562564246686112012-08-06T10:18:34.375+01:002012-08-06T10:18:34.375+01:00Another review that makes me want to wait for a re...Another review that makes me want to wait for a revised edition. Plenty of other books to read first.beersiveknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293913182389157112noreply@blogger.com